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Admin · Posted February 12th, 2009, 07:47 AM

I'm curious to know what the spon on this story will be... The need to censor the internet to prevent online postings soliciting sex for money? The need to screen who is teaching the children? Or maybe... The need to pay teachers more!?

Original story is here.

Deputies: Ohio teacher cut class for prostitution trysts

A fourth-grade teacher had a side job as a prostitute, and even skipped class after using a school computer to arrange an afternoon tryst at a motel, authorities said Wednesday.

Amber Carter, 35, left school early on Tuesday - taking half a sick day - and was arrested in a motel parking lot in Bellefontaine, where authorities had set up a sting operation.

An anonymous e-mail was sent to the Logan County Sheriff's Department on Feb. 4 saying a local woman was posting cash-for-sex ads on the popular Web site Craigslist, Lt. Rob Bibart said.

Detectives found the ad and arranged Tuesday's meeting with Carter, he said.

"It was done very subtly. We pulled up, I identified myself," he said. "I put her in an unmarked car and off we went."

Detectives were uncertain how long Carter had been advertising for sex, Bibart said.

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Zoe · Posted February 12th, 2009, 10:51 AM

Some people are just whores, but in this case, I really think she was just selling whatever she could provide, and a woman's body is an easy moneymaker.

It's wrong, but I think it's also really stupid that someone had to rat her out to the police. Mind your damn business, really. I don't really get why prostitution is illegal. Guy wants nookie, girl willing to lower herself to sell it, sounds like any other business deal, even if it is trashy. I don't agree with it, but I don't think it's anyone's business but that of the whore and the John.

Admin · Posted February 12th, 2009, 12:17 PM

Something you not telling us Zoe?

I'd love to hear from everyone about why they think this lady is doing this... Acceptable motivations? Would you look down on her more than, say, somebody who is a full time prostitute?

Zoe · Posted February 12th, 2009, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by Admin

Something you not telling us Zoe?

I'd love to hear from everyone about why they think this lady is doing this... Acceptable motivations? Would you look down on her more than, say, somebody who is a full time prostitute?

HEY! I've never done anything sexual for any kind of payment! :p I enjoy being deserving of respect.

I don't think there is an acceptable motivation, no, but an understandable one. She needs more money (she's a teacher, of course she does), and she's falling back on an easy (and very illegal) way to get it. I would not look down on her MORE than a full-timer, in fact, the full-timer is worse because they didn't even bother with getting a real job. But being a whore pays so well, why would they settle for working fast food for the rest of their lives?

The thing about prostitutes is that they aren't exactly doing it for attention, nor are they usually proud of how they make their living. They're desperate. They sell what they gotta sell, and all they have are their bodies. They tend to be racial minorities that are discriminated against in the real world. This teacher might not have been, but she was obviously not being paid enough.

A lot of prostitutes are paying for a drug habit, in which case they are of ALL races, are not necessarily unable to get a real job, but are just as desperate to make big money fast.

I don't have any respect for prostitutes, but it's hard hearing their side of it without feeling some inkling of pity.

Charleene · Posted February 13th, 2009, 06:32 PM

Shes a whore. Any woman who will sleep with someone for payment is a whore, no if, ends, or buts about it. She wants to make easy money fast? Then go work at a strip club where you dont have to sleep with someone to get your quick cash....oh, and not to mention its fucking legal. I hate people like this. Seriously, I gotta deal with my brother in law marrying a whore, that is how he met her, he paid her for sex, and proposed 3 weeks later (yeah, hes crazy, I know) and I dont want Joey anywhere near her. So I can only imagine how the parents of those kids feel knowing that a whore was teaching their children in school. Now their kids are going to be asking what she did wrong and the parents have to figure out how to explain such a thing to an innocent child who has never even had thoughts about that type of stuff. Hope she loses her job, then she can go full time and get locked up in jail, at least there we wont have to worry about who she is spreading diseases to next.

Sensitive about the subject? No. Strong opinions on it? Yes, very.

Cinder~ · Posted February 14th, 2009, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by Zoe

It's wrong, but I think it's also really stupid that someone had to rat her out to the police. Mind your damn business, really. I don't really get why prostitution is illegal. Guy wants nookie, girl willing to lower herself to sell it, sounds like any other business deal, even if it is trashy. I don't agree with it, but I don't think it's anyone's business but that of the whore and the John.

I agree with you Zoe. As long as the girl isn't underaged or being forced into it, I think that it's a personal descision.

-Ra- · Posted February 15th, 2009, 02:12 AM

In the wise words of George Carlin: "I don't understand why prostitution is illegal. Fucking is legal, selling is legal, why isn't selling fucking legal? Surely giving someone an orgasm is hardly the worst thing in the world."

Ra,

Charleene · Posted February 15th, 2009, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by -Ra-

In the wise words of George Carlin: "I don't understand why prostitution is illegal. Fucking is legal, selling is legal, why isn't selling fucking legal? Surely giving someone an orgasm is hardly the worst thing in the world."

Ra,

Because people take it too far. Its the same reason speeding is illegal. Going 5 over on the freeway is acceptable to most people. But there are those people who think going 30 over is acceptable too. The limits people put on it are too varied for it to be safe so they just outlaw it all together. The many suffer for the stupidity of the few. Its the same way with whores. You got your whores who work at whore houses in Reno who are tested on a regular basis, they take numerous measures against pregnancy and STI's as well as AIDS/HIV, they check all IDs and write down names before they will sleep with the client in case of problems, etc. And then you got the ones in the slum houses and the ones working the corners who are just doing it to feed their addiction, they are too lazy to get a real job, they dont wanna work 9-5, they want quick money cause they dont give a shit, etc. and alot dont take precautions and bad shit happens. You get rapes, muggings, pregnancies, STI's, AIDS/HIV, Hepatitis, etc. So, since there is no way to make it safe for everyone (clients, employees, etc.) then it is outlawed. There are other reasons why I personally cannot stand whores (this is not just women, men do this shit too and I cant stand them either) and there are other reasons why it is illegal, but I think the safety aspect of it is the main reason for it being outlawed. Some STI's like syphillis (I cant spell it) is something that has to be reported to the heath department because it eventually turns into a mental disease as it eats away at the brain if not treated. You think the whores on the corner are going to report that they have syphillis if they wanna keep working? I doubt it, they dont want murder charges (cant remember if its attempted murder or manslaughter) when they pass on the disease and it kills someone else.

Dangit, got up to smoke and lost my train of thought....anyways, you get the point.

-Ra- · Posted February 15th, 2009, 09:16 PM

Hate to disagree with you, but I don't get the point, no. These things happen everyday on every single town in every single state every moment of every day. Girls and boys with STDs sleep around regardless, what's the harm in taking money for it? I'm sorry, I don't see prostitution as a bad thing, I honestly don't.

Ra,

Charleene · Posted February 15th, 2009, 11:35 PM

Ok, so, lets make it legal so it can happen 100x more than it already does? Nah. I would rather it stay illegal. Hubby made a good point too. Make it legal then you will have minors thinking its ok and doing it too so they can have some pocket cash, and dont tell me that it wont happen. Look at smoking, its legal, they sell them everywhere and people are exposed to it everyday and look at all the kids who smoke. Same with drinking. You think selling sex is going to be any different? I think not. You got kids with raging hormones and its just one more reason for them to go out and have sex to temporarily feel good, in the end it will be more problems than its worth for them not to mention the teen pregnancy issue will be sooooo much worse. Yeah, lets just expose kids to more sex than ever before so they can grow up knowing that selling yourself is ok and having sex with anyone is fine as long as they pay you enough. No. Parents can only do so much to keep their kids safe from the outside world, but when you got the whores on every street corner in broad daylight, the kids wont see a problem with it as they get older because they were overexposed to it. Your environment plays a major part on how you are raised, regardless of a parents efforts, and I for one dont think that whoring yourself out for money is appropriate and is not something I would want my daughter to grow up and do.

Its the effect it has on society, crime rates, drug rates, infection rates, and death rates. Why make it legal and make all those things worse?

-Ra- · Posted February 16th, 2009, 03:46 AM

God damn insomnia! I can't sleep!! >_< I keep tossing and turning, I can't shut my brain off! I keep thinking of random crap .. Gah! .. Anyway ..

Originally Posted by Charleene

Ok, so, lets make it legal so it can happen 100x more than it already does? Nah. I would rather it stay illegal. Hubby made a good point too. Make it legal then you will have minors thinking its ok and doing it too so they can have some pocket cash, and dont tell me that it wont happen.

Unless we live in different countries, I don't understand how you don't realize that this already is the case? Under aged kids already are spreading their legs like peanut butter, smoking, drinking and doing drugs. Unless you live in a church or something, I don't see how you don't see this.

Look at smoking, its legal, they sell them everywhere and people are exposed to it everyday and look at all the kids who smoke. Same with drinking. You think selling sex is going to be any different? I think not.

No, I don't think it's going to be different. I also don't think it's going to make a difference whether it's illegal or not, it's happening already. This is like saying "keep pot illegal", uhm illegal or not, kids are doing it anyway .. so what's the difference?

You got kids with raging hormones and its just one more reason for them to go out and have sex to temporarily feel good, in the end it will be more problems than its worth for them not to mention the teen pregnancy issue will be sooooo much worse. Yeah, lets just expose kids to more sex than ever before so they can grow up knowing that selling yourself is ok and having sex with anyone is fine as long as they pay you enough.

I assume you were home schooled for you to make such a statement. I remember girls whoring themselves for lunch money in the bathrooms back in middle school. So yeah, once again, it makes absolutely no difference.

No. Parents can only do so much to keep their kids safe from the outside world, but when you got the whores on every street corner in broad daylight, the kids wont see a problem with it as they get older because they were overexposed to it.

Sort of getting redundant to repeat the same thing, but this also is already the case.

Your environment plays a major part on how you are raised, regardless of a parents efforts, and I for one dont think that whoring yourself out for money is appropriate and is not something I would want my daughter to grow up and do.

I don't think the parents of those little girls whoring out their bodies ever thought they would becomes whores either. It's just something today's youth does, and there doesn't seem to be much parents can do about it. The more you pressure someone NOT to do something, the more they WILL do it. It's basic teen-age psychology.

Its the effect it has on society, crime rates, drug rates, infection rates, and death rates. Why make it legal and make all those things worse?

Things already are as worse as they could possibly be. Prostitution being illegal makes absolutely NO difference. So, why keep it that way when no one's giving a shit about it anyway?

Ra,

Charleene · Posted February 16th, 2009, 01:31 PM

You dont seem to understand Ra. If you legalize it, it will be MUCH worse. I was not homeschooled, and I have never personally seen or even heard of kids in middle school whoring themselves out for anything. Maybe we just grew up in two completely different places, but in my county (its different when you get to Seattle though) you dont see whores everyday. Maybe you will see a woman walking on the sidewalk at night that looks like she might be one, but I think in my entire life, I have only ever seen 1 whore for sure.

I will not deny that some places are worse than others, but legalizing will make it much worse. People wont be punished for it so what would stop them from doing it? You act like every kid is exposed to it every day and that there are more teenage whores than there are regular teenagers and this isnt this case. Yes, there are teenagers out there whoring themselves out, but if you legalize it, it will be worse, as I have said throughout this entire debate.

I do not live in a box, I am not some holy person who refuses to see the truth. I know that its horrible as it is now and its everywhere, but legalizing it....will make it worse. See, you dont get that. Pot is illegal now, but (as far as I have seen) the number of people who still smoke it is astronomical. But if you were to legalize it, nearly everyone would smoke it. It would easily be available, no sneaking around to get it, no risking getting punished for doing it, not to mention the price would plummet because everyone would be growing it. Its the same way with sex. I dont see a reason to legalize something that is so negative. We teach our kids that sex is not something that you do all willy nilly and wait until your ready and stuff, so why would we want them around stuff like that more than they have to be?

Theres really no point to this debate lol they arent going to nationally legalize it for the exact reasons I have already stated. Reno allows it, and the businesses (legit ones anyways) have certain licenses, policies, and protocals they have to follow precisely in order to stay in business so that it doesnt become some skuzzy whore house where the girls are all doped up and looser than a jar of mayonaise. To me, it sounds like you think that they should legalize it, but I dont think you are seeing the overall affect it would have on society. Its not just a woman selling herself, there is a sort of domino effect this would have, and the end would just be a mess.

Why would anyone want to legalize women selling themselves? If they wanna do that kind of work then they can go to Reno to a legitimate business or they can move to another country where it is acceptable (or even become a porn actress if they want lol). I would rather keep my home ground as clean as possible.

TamaMum · Posted February 17th, 2009, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by -Ra-

....

Things already are as worse as they could possibly be. Prostitution being illegal makes absolutely NO difference. So, why keep it that way when no one's giving a shit about it anyway?

Ra,

Good grief Ra... "glass half empty", much? :p

I know I live in the UK and you live in America and we all know that they have their terrible faults but you make it sound like every teenage girl in your high school was a whore for lunch money (and by implication every high school in America is full of whores for lunch money).

You make it sound like every teenager in every school takes drugs, screws around and gets drunk all the time.

You make it sound like there are whores on every street corner in America and that every teenager will act this way and there's nothing that we can do about it because it is "in their psyche".

I know behaviour like this exists, but your descriptions make it sound like you live in a totally different country to the USA.

I firmly believe the majority of teenagers in the USA (and the "Westernised" countries) are not whores who will screw for lunch money - but there are always a few slags/skanks, who exist in every school.

I believe that most of the teenagers in our countries don't spend their whole lives drinking alcohol and having underage sex or taking drugs - just a few bad apples and some kids who experiment and occasionally get caught out and go bad.

The rest are chatting and laughing with friends, listening to good music, playing video games, learning stuff at school...

Most teenagers in our countries don't stand on street corners looking for business and given the opportunity (if prostitution was legalised) they would be able to judge what is morally right or wrong - despite their hormones and despite teenage psychology.

Why would they be able to judge what seems right or wrong? Because we have laws that give them guidelines on what is socially acceptable and what is not socially acceptable.

A lot of teens rebel - but I don't for one minute think that things are as worse as they could possibly be.

I think the prostitution laws we have in place in our society have evolved and become what they are for good reasons and part of that is to avoid anarchy.

I support the idea of looking at laws if they don't make sense or are not working, I am not convinced by your argument that legalising prostitution would make "absolutely no difference".

... and most of us really do give a shit about teenagers and what they learn and how they're going to grow into adults (in truth, I think most of the adults on nonTT are like that).

Do you really believe those things about society based on all the teenagers you know?
All the ones you know IRL, all those from nonTT, TT & TC, Tama-Zone, mibbit, etc.? I find that pretty scary.

If the debate's whether prostitution should be socially acceptable, I don't think it is that simple.

There are pimps and organised crime and trafficking to consider as well - it's a tangled web.

There is no simple "Yes or No" answer

-Ra- · Posted February 17th, 2009, 11:10 PM

I guess when you were going to school, things were much more innocent, that's all I can say. I have yet to see a single teenager who doesn't want to sleep around as he/she pleases, get drunk on every possible occasion, and smoke pot. On that affect, I hardly see any difference between doing this, and taking money for it, which is the description of prostitution. So, the "act" of prostitution already is taking place, just instead of taking direct cash for it, they're being bought drinks at bars first, and then offer their services.

Anyway, I'm not going to continue this any further. Obviously you and Char seem to live in a very prudish place, and obviously you two went to extraordinarily well-behaved schools where apparently teenagers didn't sleep around, drink alcohol and do drugs. I'm "truly" sorry to say I experienced the total opposite of what you two speak of. So from my own experiences, observances and conclusions, prostitution makes no difference, just like making marijuana illegal makes no difference.

Ra,

Charleene · Posted February 17th, 2009, 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by -Ra-

I guess when you were going to school, things were much more innocent, that's all I can say. I have yet to see a single teenager who doesn't want to sleep around as he/she pleases, get drunk on every possible occasion, and smoke pot. On that affect, I hardly see any difference between doing this, and taking money for it, which is the description of prostitution. So, the "act" of prostitution already is taking place, just instead of taking direct cash for it, they're being bought drinks at bars first, and then offer their services.

Anyway, I'm not going to continue this any further. Obviously you and Char seem to live in a very prudish place, and obviously you two went to extraordinarily well-behaved schools where apparently teenagers didn't sleep around, drink alcohol and do drugs. I'm "truly" sorry to say I experienced the total opposite of what you two speak of. So from my own experiences, observances and conclusions, prostitution makes no difference, just like making marijuana illegal makes no difference.

Ra,

Well if that is how you grew up then I feel sorry for you because of the environment that was forced upon you as a child. It seems to have affected the way you view certain topics and its a shame. Just because the schools I went to didnt have these things (I didnt see them or hear about them, it could have been happening but no where NEAR the level you are saying they happen at) doesnt mean that I was brought up in some sheltered society and went to "prudish" schools. It just means I went to a normal public school and was a semi-normal kid. I was at the top ranks of the "kids your parents dont want you hanging out with" when I was in middle school and I didnt sleep around like a whore with anything that walked. I drank and did drugs and had sex before I was ready, but that doesnt mean I was acting like a whore. Not every teenager who makes mistakes and rebels is a whore, just letting you know so you dont get me confused with the bunny ranch workers in Reno

So Im sorry, but I dont see what you are referring to here.

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